Billie Eilish and her brother Finneas regularly perform in huge sold out venues. Recently, the two of them stopped by one that was a bit smaller: the NPR Tiny Desk.

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Ari Shapiro has been one of the hosts of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine, since 2015. During his first two years on the program, listenership to All Things Considered ...

Ari Shapiro has been one of the hosts of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine, since 2015. During his first two years on the program, listenership to All Things ...

NPR's Ari Shapiro talks with Steven Heydemann, Middle East Studies director at Smith College, about how Syria might avoid replicating Arab countries that are worse off after overthrowing dictators.

Ari Shapiro has been one of the hosts of All Things Considered, NPR's award-winning afternoon newsmagazine, since 2015. During his first two years on the program, listenership to All Things Considered ...

SHAPIRO: Billie Eilish and Finneas, thank you so much for coming to the Tiny Desk and for... EILISH: Thanks, Ari. SHAPIRO: ...Sticking around to chat with us. O'CONNELL: Thanks for having us.